2004-08-08 [HellzHalo426]: you all are so smart.. i feel like..stupid now..

2004-08-08 [Pale-Suzie]: why? there's no need to. ^_^

2004-08-08 [HellzHalo426]: yeah well i dont read the bible so like.. yeah.. cuz like i dont believe in god..as mentioned above^

2004-08-08 [Pale-Suzie]: hehe, i don't believe in god either, and i can totally understand why you wouldn't want to read it, there's nothing wrong it that, i read the bible first because my dad read it out aloud as bedtime story when i was a kid. then i read it in school because i was forced to, and finally i read it one last time to see if i really believed in god or not. i came out believing that the bible was good bedtime story, but nothing more then that.

2004-08-08 [HellzHalo426]: thats a good philosophy.. but i dont have the patience to read about things wouldnt intrest me in the slightest

2004-08-08 [Pale-Suzie]: i can understand that, i wouldn't wnat to sit and read a 1000 pages book about... what... horses or something either. i just belive you can't chose a religion before you've looked at all of them, or at least the big ones. next on my list is islam... but out F***ing libary has a wait list on the koran that's like 2 or 3 years long... -_- i've been waiting a year already.

2004-08-08 [HellzHalo426]: wow! thats a loonnggg time!

2004-08-08 [Pale-Suzie]: yeah, i think so to... i'm serously gonna do something about it soon... i didn't know it would take that long!

2004-08-08 [HellzHalo426]: ohh! welp.. i am to go swim with dez! i shall be back soon! feel free to message myself at any moment!

2004-08-08 [Pale-Suzie]: hehe, okay, see you around. ^_^

2004-08-08 [black mamba]: ...:::;N:E:W::P:O:L:L;:::...

2004-08-08 [Lioness123]: I know a guy who was roman catholic then turned athiest. I feel terribly sorry for him, because he doesn't know what he's giving up. For all you people who don't believe in God, I just hope you really give God a chance, and if you still don't believe in him, thats cool...thats your own choice. But I'll pray for you guys.

2004-08-08 [Pale-Suzie]: well, if he was a catholic i'm pretty sure he did give god a chance... *shrugs* you can pray as much as you like, i won't stop you. i just can't be bothered to look for god, i've tried several times and everytime i have returned empty handed... for me looking for god is like throwing yourself out of a building hoping someone will catch you... it sounds very romantic and poetic, but it isn't gonna happen. i don't want to spend my life looking ofr god, when i could use it on so much else.

2004-08-08 [Lioness123]: I'm sorry you feel that way.

2004-08-08 [Glace*]: You think that people are less happy when they don't believe in god ? I used to be christian but now i feel much better ! I am not god's slave anymore, I don't follow anyone's rules and I don't need anyone to tell me what to do. Honnestly, i feel sorry for you too, because you still NEED to believe in this. I BELIEVE religion is for people who feel kinda lost and alone, so i won't argue about god's existence, religion can be a good thing for some people.

2004-08-08 [Pale-Suzie]: i know i'm being intolerant, but could ppl please not say stuff like that? god loves you and i'm sorry you feel like that? how would you feel if i said i was sorry for you you didn't realise god didn't exist?

2004-08-08 [Lioness123]: if it wern't for God or my guardian angel or whatever, I would seriously be dead right now. A few years ago I was very suicidal but something kept me from doing it. I believe God helped me through every inch of my suffering and kept me company in my darkest hours when I was otherwise alone.

2004-08-08 [Pale-Suzie]: thanks anéz you said what i couldn't say... i used to be a christian to, and guess what, i know the whole bible rutine and all that stuff, and i don't tell every christian i met that they shoudl see the light and stop praying to god, don't feel sorry for me because i don't belive in god, because i'm not sorry about it.

2004-08-08 [Lioness123]: and its not just that one time I've felt Gods presence in my life, I've seen and felt God intervening in many situations in my life.

2004-08-08 [Pale-Suzie]: okay, well a couple of years back i was very suicidal to, my life was a nightmare... i wanted to die, and guess what? i didn't feel any god help... which i think is pretty weird considering i was actually a christian back then who went to church and prayed to god. but all my prayers where useless, no god came to save me or help me thru... actualyl the only reason i'm stil lalive was because i am one sad person who stayed alive so i could get revenge... and then, after years of depresion, i gave up on god, cause he had clearly givin up on me... and slowly, with the help from my friends, REAL ppl, i learned that life wasn't all about pain an revenge... god didn't help me, i helped me.

2004-08-08 [Lioness123]: well, don't hate me for saying this, but I think there may be alot of things you either over looked or failed to notice...but who knows? Maybe all this happened to you for a reason. Maybe you're a stronger person because of this and maybe your strength will be needed to help someone else in need someday.

2004-08-08 [Glace*]: wow lioness you can see god aywhere ! but instead of making curly gurl stronger why doesn't god directly help the other person who will need curly gurl strenght ? Anyway this is a wiki about gay marriage. I have to say that I think a lot of members of this wiki don't assume their own opinion so they say it's because of religion and they quote the old testament which is higly paradoxal for christians. You can't simply say it's because of religion because you chosed to believe in it

2004-08-08 [Pale-Suzie]: i don't hate you for saying that, and you can keep on saying it. i'm just tired of ppl telling me to belive in god, and if they don't try to convince me that god i right, they tell me they feel sorry for me, or that god loves me anyway. tell god that there's a lot of other ppl who needs his love a lot more then i do, and as for ppl like that feeling sorry for me, the feeling is mutural.

2004-08-08 [Lioness123]: I think God helps people by working through other people. But anyway, you're right, this IS a wiki about gay marriage...we kinda got off topic.

2004-08-08 [Glace*]: So the power of god is to make some people suffer to make them stronger ? but why did he help you then ? (he did help you right ?) you think you and somepeople deserve love and help and other people deserve suffering ?

2004-08-08 [Pale-Suzie]: notice how we always get of topic? and this the topic we discuss almost more then gay marriage?

2004-08-08 [Lioness123]: I'm not gonna pretend to know Gods plan for everyone because I don't. I just believe that God knows what he's doing and that he wants the best for everyone. We can't always know why things happen to us, but we must try and make the best out of it. Thats why we have FAITH.

2004-08-08 [Pale-Suzie]: but if we're just gonna let things happen, and god will let us experience a bunch of crap no matter what we do... what do we need to belive in god for? why do we need to have god to have faith?

2004-08-08 [Lioness123]: God never gives you anything you can't handle. But anyway, lets get back on topic.

2004-08-08 [Glace*]: Just imagine that there isn't any god, ok ?..There would still be people being happy and people being sad and we would still be ablle to say "Everything happen for a reason but sometime we are unablle to understand these reasons".

2004-08-08 [Lioness123]: I believe that if there was no God,  we  wouldn't  even  exist.

2004-08-08 [Pale-Suzie]: if god never gives you anything you can't handel.. wh ydo ppl comit suicide? you and i might have survived it, but there's still so many who don't. we could get back on topic, but these two subject seem to be pretty closely related.

2004-08-08 [Lioness123]: I think people commit suicide because of many reasons..they've given up hope, they only live in THIS moment and don't think things will ever get any better, and because they don't stop to think of how that act would affect their family and loved ones.

2004-08-08 [Lioness123]: like me, I've seen what a suicide does to a family and I'd NEVER do that to my family. 

2004-08-08 [Pale-Suzie]: yeah, but why do they do that if god only gives ppl what they can handel?

2004-08-08 [Glace*]: Don't you believe in big bang ? Or darwin ? Or if you think there is any "strange coincidence" in these theory you're wrong, i could explain you that i think

2004-08-08 [Lioness123]: I don't have all the answers...my guess is that maybe they had the chance to get help but refused it.. who knows?

2004-08-08 [Lioness123]: Anéz-ièl, you mean evolution?

2004-08-08 [Glace*]: And if you think there is a god why do you think he has any influence on our lives ?

2004-08-08 [Glace*]: yes evolution

2004-08-08 [Lioness123]: I believe in guided evolution. You guys have read the first testament right? where it talks about how people and the creatures were made from the clay of the earth..? well, imagine that you're an uneducated shepard boy and God comes down from heaven and is trying to explain creation to you..he'd try and put it in a way that people of that time would understand.

2004-08-08 [Vane16]: hey i am a supporter of wat u all r about

2004-08-08 [Glace*]: Ok but you said we wouldn't be there without god. Does that mean that you think god created the first life ?

2004-08-08 [Lioness123]: yup

2004-08-08 [Lioness123]: sorry ppl, but I gotta go. Laterz!

2004-08-08 [Vane16]: uhh...leter

2004-08-08 [Pnelma Tirian]: also, to God a day can last a thousand years and a thousand years can be like a day. :)

2004-08-08 [kiss will kill you86]: you make me sick

2004-08-08 [Our Lady of Sorrow]: hey there is this huge debate that me and atmostrata started... its on the subject of gay marriage... its at gay marriage debate feel free to join...

2004-08-09 [Glace*]: I think there are 7 scientific different theorys about the creation of life, the one with god is the most complicated one, why do you think this one is right ? Is it only because you need that ?

2004-08-09 [Zoltan The Raven]: no its because its true....

2004-08-09 [Our Lady of Sorrow]: prove it

2004-08-09 [Zoltan The Raven]: u prove that he doesnt exist...

2004-08-09 [Our Lady of Sorrow]: prove that he does...

2004-08-09 [Zoltan The Raven]: ok....let me ask u something 1st...how do u explain the cells of a foetus to transform to the perfect cells that is the need of the baby...and to be in the perfect place it should be....?

2004-08-09 [Zoltan The Raven]: come on!!! it was only the 1st proof....

2004-08-09 [Zoltan The Raven]: ur just an ignorant closing eyes not to see the sun...and deny the existance of it...

2004-08-09 [Glace*]: You call that a proof ?!! Ever heard about human metabolism ? Anyway there are a lot of things that can't be explain by science, but that doesn't mean that god exist. You can't use Humanity ignorance to prove that there is a god. I can't prove the non-existence of anything, but that's not an argument ! ... I believe that there is an huge and invisble giant dog walking on the clouds...Prove me that he doesn't exist. Please, Give me one single proof not based on our ignorance or on your hope.

2004-08-09 [Lioness123]: there are so many things that baffle scientists that they STILL can't explain...like how a fetus' heart starts beating

2004-08-09 [Lioness123]: they can tell you a million reasons why it can stop, but not one can tell you what makes it start

2004-08-09 [Lioness123]: check this out...I found this is someone's homepage: Yes I do belive and Support Gay Marriage. If u don't then I dont want to hear your worthless shit,ok.Don't send me a message like you really belive in that or striaght is the only way,a little information people NO IT'S NOT! A man can love a woman the same as a man can love a man or a woman can love another woman. So here is my message to people who don't Support it: FUCK YOU!!

2004-08-09 [Pnelma Tirian]: Grag! this is so incredibly annoying! Arguing about this will get us nowhere. All I know is that without God, I would be a disgusting little perv and my family would have fallen apart completely long ago. We're all still together, even if my parents are divorced. My dad lives right next door, for crying out loud!

2004-08-09 [Pnelma Tirian]: yeah, I've seen that. >.>

2004-08-09 [QueenShell]: Well, that was a bit harsh of the Gay supporter ... And to the scientific thing. They didn't have television in the stoneage, did they? No, they didn't ... They invented the television later - and who knows, maybe they'll find an answer for some of the unanswered questions of certain things existence or other that we do not know of. No one can predict the future, not scientist - and not God ...

2004-08-09 [Lioness123]: I disagree with the end of that paragraph. I believe God knows everything. but anyhoo, I'm gonna go take my little brother on a bike ride...see yall later!

2004-08-09 [levhole]: well there aren't 700 of us yet, but the wiki is growing quickly

2004-08-09 [dfafadsfasdasf]: so wassup peeps

2004-08-09 [Our Lady of Sorrow]: hell... in living hell... blah

2004-08-09 [dfafadsfasdasf]: really?

2004-08-10 [Our Lady of Sorrow]: yea... a little place in my mind that is my own personal hell

2004-08-10 [dfafadsfasdasf]: ok

2004-08-10 [Lioness123]: hope you feel better, nightshade.

2004-08-10 [!RAGDOLL!]: u know u guys get horny at the sight of 2 girls fucking

2004-08-10 [Pnelma Tirian]: no. Our puny little minds aren't developed enough to get horny at something like that. Sorry, you must be on the wrong page. Was cyber shack what you were looking for? :)

2004-08-10 [Glace*]: I am still waiting, give me one proof not based on our ignorance or on your hope. And lioness you'r right and i believe there will ever be a lot of things that scientists can't explain, why should they understand everything ?. But well maybe i should give up, and talk about gay marriage

2004-08-10 [Pnelma Tirian]: what was your question?

2004-08-10 [Glace*]: are you talking to me ? i asked a proof not based on our ignorance or on your hope but it doesn't really matter

2004-08-10 [Pnelma Tirian]: no, I'm sorry, but yes, I am talking to you. don't give up. Okay. you want me to give you firm, solid proof that God exists? Why?

2004-08-10 [Glace*]: because a lot of people seems to base their opinion on religion, so it means that for these people god is not a simple supposition and i wanna know if they realy believe in god only because they need it

2004-08-11 [Pnelma Tirian]: -to hide behind? (trying to finish your sentence)

2004-08-11 [levhole]: well god or no... religion is a very popular superstition that has been around since recorded history... one would be foolish to think some type of superior being doesn't exist

2004-08-12 [The Scarlet Pumpernickle]: Ya I mean it's degading to think that human life just "happened" you might like walking around thinking that your just stinking bits of slime that evolved by chance..but I don't

2004-08-12 [HiddenFire]: degrading? How self-centered are humans? Sorry, one of the many things I don't like about humans in general (I do not claim to not be human... But I had no choice what species I was born as).

2004-08-12 [Lioness123]: would you rather have been born a cow?

2004-08-12 [HiddenFire]: Here's a question. Why bring religion into this? If the government where to say "Christianity says that homosexuality is a sin, so we can't let them marry." then the government would also have to say "Polygomy should be legal because the book of morman says so." or "The native americans should be able to smoke halucinagens because it's part of their religion." Then there is the issue with the fact that there are points where certain religions contradict each other (no I did not say "contradict themselves"). What one religion may see was wrong or evil another may view as ritual. There are also other religions that have marriages and not all of them are so restricting.

2004-08-12 [Pnelma Tirian]: lol. Personally, with Darwin's rule of 'survival of the fittest' we would not be the highest creatures on the food chain. Grah! randomosity makes much more sense than this does. >.<

2004-08-12 [HiddenFire]: born a cow? let me think... all I would do is eat, sleep, and screw... sounds good to me! sure I might eventually be chopped up and eaten but it would certainly be much less complicated! @.@

2004-08-12 [Pnelma Tirian]: eh. I'd rather be a lioness. Eat, hunt, sleep...hell, the males of the pack have it even easier! :D

2004-08-12 [HiddenFire]: Before someone asks... because they all do. I am male and I am straight... for the most part anyway. But that is mostly due to the fact that I feel the need to perpetuate my genes. @.@

2004-08-12 [Lioness123]: lol, now that we're talking about survival of the fittest....if it wern't for human's enormous brains to create tools and machinery, we would have died out with the wooly mammoth. We have no big teeth, no claws, can't run fast, can't see in the dark....etc.

2004-08-12 [Lioness123]: no, the male lions have to fight to the death for the right to mate

2004-08-12 [HiddenFire]: or rather it was our brains (their surface area not their size) that allowed us to become so weak. or we could have adapted to weaknesses. evolution facinates me. ^_^

2004-08-12 [Lioness123]: yeah, me too...doesn't it seem that the larger a creature is, the dummer it is?

2004-08-12 [HiddenFire]: elephants are acutally quite smart though. and turkeys are dumb as my toenail clippings. @.@

2004-08-12 [Lioness123]: yup, you're right on that one

2004-08-12 [Tatersalad]: how do gay people reproduce?

2004-08-12 [**fiona**]: they can use surrogate mothers to reproduce

2004-08-13 [Our Lady of Sorrow]: LOL omfg ur first banner... the blue one? not likeing seeing girls kissing girls i can guarentee that that is inncorect for every adolesant or adult male in here. wow.... u idiots... *sigh*

2004-08-13 [Pnelma Tirian]: dude. line right underneath: guys kissing guys. did you read that far?

2004-08-13 [Pnelma Tirian]: and it's not really polite to call us idiots, friend. :)

2004-08-13 [Our Lady of Sorrow]: thats an and... not an or... little typo eh? cause i know that adlesont and adult males would have no problem watching a girl kiss another girl.

2004-08-13 [The Scarlet Pumpernickle]: Well I am a adolesent girl and I don't like seeing guys kissing guys...It makes me wanna hurl...And girls have a sex drive too don't forget...anyway who's the Adult male in here?

2004-08-13 [HiddenFire]: Offended it's worth a look. Myself, even though I am a straight male, am not disgusted by male on male or girl on girl action. well... if the people are yucky looking and their all over each other like they've got something to prove, that's gross... but I don't like it when hetero couples act like that. When two people, any two people, are kissing like they want to swallow the other person from the shoulders up and their hands act like they're trying to map the entireity of the other persons body, I find it repulsive. I'm more of a passion person myself, none of that raw sexuality... it just is not appealing to me. *shrugs* but I am an oddity when it comes to straight males. @.@

2004-08-13 [Pnelma Tirian]: dude. the banner says plzzzzzz. why are you expecting good grammar from a banner like that?

2004-08-13 [Lioness123]: i have queation for everyone...why does it seem that all lesbiens try to look like guys and gay guys try to look almost female??

2004-08-13 [Lioness123]: question*

2004-08-13 [HiddenFire]: or rather why is it that there are gay men more feminine than most straight women and gay women more butch than most straight men... sounds like they're trying too hard to me. *shrugs* but what do I know? I'm straight. *shrugs*

2004-08-13 [The Scarlet Pumpernickle]: ya I've noticed it too....why is that....My princable was a lesbian...and seriously...she looked like a guy

2004-08-13 [Lioness123]: lol, its just that I work in a hardware store, ad when these women come in, you can tell that their lesbien...but the way they make themselves look makes me sick...butch haircuts, and dressed like burly men

2004-08-13 [The Scarlet Pumpernickle]: I know...so what's the point of being female when you try look like a guy...do most gay couples have a masculan and a feminen person?

2004-08-13 [HiddenFire]: perhaps they're just manish looking women... just because they're ugo's doesn't mean they're lesbians. lol

2004-08-13 [Lioness123]: no, they were lesbos...trust me. its like how you can tell which guys and girls are a couple and which ones arent

2004-08-13 [HiddenFire]: so straight people have gaydar now? @.@ when did this happen?

2004-08-13 [No Homecoming.]: Ugh, Please people, There are people who like to express themselves... Are gay's not allowed to feel slightly 'pretty'? Are lesbians not allowed to feel slightly 'butch'? Also, There are straight people who like to express their opposite sex sides. I may be Canadian, but for heaven's sake. I hope Kerry wins.

2004-08-13 [HiddenFire]: I suppose they are allowed to feel however they want. pretty, butch... whatever flaots their boats! To each thier own! or another other cliche saying that fits here. @.@

2004-08-14 [Jen.]: Hey I thought one of the rules of this wiki was NOT to bash on homosexuals. If you think saying that lesbians look "butch" and gays look "like women" and saying that ALL of them are like that, I think you guys need to check you're rules. Gays don't go around bashing straigh people, so why do straight people go around bashing gays? I mean no offense to you, but this wiki is a bunch of hippocrits.

2004-08-14 [Pnelma Tirian]: I know I am! :D oh, and it's spelled "hypocrite." :)

2004-08-14 [The Scarlet Pumpernickle]: we're not "bashing gays"...we never said "all" gay women look like guys or that all gay guys look like women...we said "some"...Oh and gay people do bash stait people...so do gay marriage supporters...like yourself

2004-08-14 [HiddenFire]: er... did I say all? I didn't mean to imply all. rather "some" is more appropriate.

2004-08-14 [Jen.]: I'm not bashing on you Scarlet Pumpernickle, and thank you Pnelma, I have bad spelling and all! ^^! Look TSP, I'm not bashing on you, or saying you guys are horrible people, because that is wrong to do. But before you judge me for being mean, why don't you stop bashing me first. It's ok Hiddenfire, I was generally saying not all homosexuals are trying to be the opposite sex. I knew very many lesbians, and they don't look butch, so I understand.

2004-08-14 [Pnelma Tirian]: you're very welcome! ^_^ misspellings are painful for me to look at. ^_^you are aware that calling us all hypocrites(even when it is true in my case) is an insult, right?

2004-08-14 [Jen.]: Well..I realize it can be interpreted as one, but the way I meant it is basically just saying, you guys say you won't insult gays, but you do, and I mean NO insult about that.

2004-08-14 [The Scarlet Pumpernickle]: Alright...I'm sorry...I've had alot of gay marraige supporters bash me for not being a supporter...so I'm sorry that I was rude

2004-08-14 [Pnelma Tirian]: well, there are very few in this world that aren't hypocrites. the hypocrites clan is a large one, and is getting bigger every day! ^_^ mwhaahaha!!FEAR OUR ALMIGHTY POWER!! XD

2004-08-14 [Pnelma Tirian]: or lack thereof! ^_^

2004-08-14 [Jen.]: I'm not one for bashing anyone at anytime, but just because we have our differences, *as do gay and straight people* We do not have to hate each other.

2004-08-14 [The Scarlet Pumpernickle]: Alright...shall we call a truce?

2004-08-14 [Pnelma Tirian]: very true! ^_^ I quote every secondary character in any movie: "can't we all just get along?" XD

2004-08-14 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: wow...i just joined...but these topics are fun to read...everyone has their views on life

2004-08-14 [Jen.]: Hehe! *Truces you* I've made peace, I'll be on my way now!

2004-08-14 [dfafadsfasdasf]: whats goin down up in herr, thought i'd go ghetto 4 a sec.

2004-08-14 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: a slight argumnt is what it looks like

2004-08-14 [Lioness123]: lol, same old same old

2004-08-14 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: its fun to read though

2004-08-14 [Lioness123]: heehe, yes it is..although some people get angry too easily

2004-08-14 [The Scarlet Pumpernickle]: ah yes..that's all we do in here....provide entertainment ;)

2004-08-14 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: sorry scarlet...thats not what i ment...i just ment that i neverget to hear us straight supporters vocalize..thats all

2004-08-14 [dfafadsfasdasf]: seems like it huh

2004-08-14 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: yes...i'm thrilled i found this wikki...thats what i ment by fun

2004-08-14 [The Scarlet Pumpernickle]: lol I was just kidding....^_~

2004-08-14 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: hehe..okay than....but just the same

2004-08-14 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: hey, does anyone here have gay or lesbian friends???

2004-08-14 [Pnelma Tirian]: I do! ^_^

2004-08-14 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: how do you deal with it when they act like they're hitting on you...or call someone cute and you don't think so because your the same gender

2004-08-14 [The Scarlet Pumpernickle]: Well I don't....but I know a guy who "claimes" to be gay....But I found out from his older brother (by accident) that he just says that cause it attracts girls or something....I don't even know If his bro knows that at school he claims to have a "boyfreind" Andrew (the older brother) just says he's a girl magnet

2004-08-14 [Pnelma Tirian]: Oh, I have no problem. He's gay, so he doesn't hit on me. ^_^

2004-08-14 [Lioness123]: being gay is supposed to attract girls...???

2004-08-14 [Lioness123]: or "acting" gay, I mean

2004-08-14 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: there is a graduated man who used to go to my high school, and he's dating a freshman boy...and the office lets him, shouldn't there be a law on age diffrences even if they're gay

2004-08-14 [The Scarlet Pumpernickle]: Well some think it's hot...I personally find it disgusting...but It must work because girls are allways giving him hugs and hanging around with him at school

2004-08-14 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: i agree, it is gross, and thats my view on it, if someone dosen't like it than suck it up, so's life

2004-08-14 [The Scarlet Pumpernickle]: well I agree and I don't...that's what gay supporters say too and we don't like it...so why should we do it back...I personally belive in "Love the sinner and hate the sin"..but that's just me

2004-08-14 [Lioness123]: that may be just because they think of him as "one of the girls" and not so much as a sexual attraction

2004-08-14 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: oh, i haven't heard that quote in a while, i agree as well, i just usually get tackled with comments when i say what i believe

2004-08-14 [The Scarlet Pumpernickle]: there's a wiki dedicated to that if you want to join...go toLove the Sinner Hate the Sin

2004-08-14 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: checking it out now

2004-08-14 [The Scarlet Pumpernickle]: righto

2004-08-14 [Leelo]: lol I am one of the owners of that wiki, thanks for helpiong us [The Scarlet Pumpernickle]

2004-08-14 [The Scarlet Pumpernickle]: welcome!

2004-08-14 [Leelo]: ^_^ So what's new??

2004-08-15 [HellzHalo426]: heylo! im off grounding now! so how r yall?

2004-08-15 [Lioness123]: doing great, thanks

2004-08-15 [HellzHalo426]: welcome

2004-08-15 [Leelo]: We're fine

2004-08-15 [Leelo]: and you??

2004-08-16 [Pale-Suzie]: wow, i've been gone for like 3 days or something and there's already 10 new members, did i miss something? o_O anyways, how are all you ppl doing?

2004-08-16 [HellzHalo426]: yesh i am fine! how are YOU?

2004-08-16 [Pale-Suzie]: uhm, pretty good, any reason for the big YOU?

2004-08-16 [HellzHalo426]: emphasis lol i dint know how else to emphasize.. >_<

2004-08-16 [Pale-Suzie]: hehe, kay, just got a bit worried that i'd done something i didn't know i had done, y'know, happens sometimes, never really know what you've done 'til ppl tell you... :P

2004-08-16 [HellzHalo426]: yeah lol ^_^ i feel like dancing!

2004-08-16 [Pale-Suzie]: oh you do? well i'm really no good at dancing, but if you pormise nobody's looking i'll join you. :P

2004-08-16 [HellzHalo426]: *glances around* i dont think anyone is looking..

2004-08-16 [Pale-Suzie]: hehe, sounds good with a dance then. ^_^

2004-08-16 [HellzHalo426]: hee hee do you like atreyu?

2004-08-16 [Pale-Suzie]: atreyu? i'm not sure i know what that is! ^_^

2004-08-16 [HellzHalo426]: ohhh! its (in my opinion) like one of the greatest bands ever!!

2004-08-16 [HiddenFire]: The little indian boy (native american) from the never ending story! Come on now, didn't you people have childhoods? LOL. ^_^

2004-08-16 [HellzHalo426]: not him lol the band ^_^

2004-08-16 [HiddenFire]: ah... do they know they're named after a little indian boy? @.@

2004-08-16 [The Scarlet Pumpernickle]: lol

2004-08-16 [Pale-Suzie]: actually i'm a bit to young for the never ending story, i've seen it but that was when i was way way little... oh and i'll have ti check them out sometime then. ^_^ what kind of music do they play?

2004-08-16 [HellzHalo426]: i dont know ?_? hee hee tis funny coincidence tho isnt it?

2004-08-16 [HiddenFire]: they play... well, *is trying to sift through his horrific memory* I am reasonably certain it is concert type music, or synthesizers... I can't remember. they where my favorite movies a while ago... until they came out with the 4th (it blew chunks and ruined it all for me). Now if you're wondering how I was able to remember the kids name and still maintain a "bad memory" it's simple: that was recognition, the name triggered the memory, yesterday I was talking with someone about the never ending story and I couldn't think of the kids name to save my life. @.@

2004-08-16 [HellzHalo426]: hee hee that tis very funny

2004-08-16 [take me home and feed me]: hey did yall hear that mcdonalds and walt disney r the # 1 supporters of the gay rights act

2004-08-16 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: WHAT!!!! I didn't know that...how did you hear that (p.s. Target is too)

2004-08-16 [Kirikale]: Um, I'm all for straight-ness too, but I think maybe you should fix your banners so that they are spelled correctly...at least the blue one...should be "our rights too" Sorry...I'm a editing freak. >_< I just think that you should want people to see you as smart individuals with opinions, not the stereotypical redneck gay-hater... yeah. ^_^

2004-08-16 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: ....not meaning to point fingers or anything....

2004-08-16 [The Scarlet Pumpernickle]: I agree...people are just going to think we are little immature kids who can't spell if we don't

2004-08-16 [Pnelma Tirian]: Truely.

2004-08-16 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: well, truthfully, i am a bad speller....but that means we'll need to get someone to fix it, or make us a new one.....

2004-08-16 [Leelo]: Hey well if it it spelled wrong might draw some more attention, never know

2004-08-17 [Kirikale]: hehe it got my attention. ^_^

2004-08-17 [still silence]: Well, I'm not trying to start trouble or anything, but I was just wondering that if you all don't support gay marriage, then why do only half of you have those banners on your pages. If you really believe in something, you shouldn't be ashamed of stating it. Also, since you are discussing banner changes, I would suggest to make your banner's less aggressive. It sounds like you are against gays, not just gay marriage. And people who see that might not take time to read your wiki page and just start yelling. Perhaps you should do "We do not believe in Mr. and Mr. or Mrs. and Mrs." something that states a marriage union...The Adam and Steve banner...really sounds like you hate gays...

2004-08-17 [still silence]: It's just a suggestion to avoid further arguments with other people who support gays and gay marriage

2004-08-17 [Snowboarding Hobitz]: people will always find something wrong with what they dissagree with *i'm not trying to argue about what you said, i'm just saying* and Adam and Eve were pretty much a 'married" couple, so thats probibly the reasoning behind that

2004-08-17 [Leelo]: Well they suggest hate towards us with it's about love not discrimination! blah, blah, blah....And we sit and do somethign and they attack us. Well I am sorry if it offends ppl, they'll just have to get over it, because it is not going to be changed, EVER!!!!(sorry if this offends you, I am stating, my opinion)

2004-08-17 [The Scarlet Pumpernickle]: ya and A banner isn't up in my bio...because all my banner are on a seperate page. But I have my opinion on gays stated

2004-08-17 [Leelo]: Yes I have my opinion on them too, I do not hate them, I hate what they are doing.